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		<title>Dave at 21:44, 3 January 2014</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&#039;ve always gone out of my way to try to support older computers, I make it a point to support at LEAST two OS revisions backward.  The current MacOS is 10.&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;7&lt;/del&gt;, that means right now I support 10.&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;6 &lt;/del&gt;and 10.&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;5&lt;/del&gt;.  However, kJams does continue to run on 10.4, even tho it is not officially supported.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&#039;ve always gone out of my way to try to support older computers, I make it a point to support at LEAST two OS revisions backward.  The current MacOS is 10.&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;9&lt;/ins&gt;, that means right now I &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;fully &lt;/ins&gt;support 10.&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;8 &lt;/ins&gt;and 10.&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;7&lt;/ins&gt;.  However, kJams does continue to run on 10.4&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, 10.5, and 10.6&lt;/ins&gt;, even tho it is not officially supported.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A problem coming up is this: 10.5 was the last OS that supported PowerPC chips.  Anyone with a PowerPC computer is stuck forever on MacOS 10.5.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A problem coming up is this: 10.5 was the last OS that supported PowerPC chips.  Anyone with a PowerPC computer is stuck forever on MacOS 10.5.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Apple is introducing Mountain Lion (OS X 10.8) &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;this &lt;/del&gt;summer.  At that point, &quot;two OS revisions back&quot; becomes MacOS 10.6.  That means 10.5 is dropped.  That means PowerPC is dropped.  However, that sucks for people with PowerPC machines.  Okay I get it.  The real BIG problem however is the tools made by Apple (Xcode) *require* that I use the latest OS in order to develop for that OS, so I *must* update to &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;10.8 &lt;/del&gt;when it comes out.  This is a big problem because those tools NO LONGER ENABLE the ability for me to produce a PowerPC version of kJams.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Apple is introducing Mountain Lion (OS X 10.8) summer &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;in the summer of 2012&lt;/ins&gt;.  At that point, &quot;two OS revisions back&quot; becomes MacOS 10.6.  That means 10.5 is dropped.  That means PowerPC is dropped.  However, that sucks for people with PowerPC machines.  Okay I get it.  The real BIG problem however is the tools made by Apple (Xcode) *require* that I use the latest OS in order to develop for that OS, so I *must* update to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the latest &lt;/ins&gt;when it comes out.  This is a big problem because those tools NO LONGER ENABLE the ability for me to produce a PowerPC version of kJams.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So if i really want to keep supporting PowerPC computers on OS 10.5, it means I have to create a virtual machine with an older OS with older tools installed to do it.  It&amp;#039;s really hard for me to justify the hassle and expense of this, considering only about FIVE customers have written to me saying that they have this very old hardware.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So if i really want to keep supporting PowerPC computers on OS 10.5, it means I have to create a virtual machine with an older OS with older tools installed to do it.  It&amp;#039;s really hard for me to justify the hassle and expense of this, considering only about FIVE customers have written to me saying that they have this very old hardware.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Dave: Created page with &quot;I&#039;ve always gone out of my way to try to support older computers, I make it a point to support at LEAST two OS revisions backward.  The current MacOS is 10.7, that means right no...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;I&amp;#039;ve always gone out of my way to try to support older computers, I make it a point to support at LEAST two OS revisions backward.  The current MacOS is 10.7, that means right no...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#039;ve always gone out of my way to try to support older computers, I make it a point to support at LEAST two OS revisions backward.  The current MacOS is 10.7, that means right now I support 10.6 and 10.5.  However, kJams does continue to run on 10.4, even tho it is not officially supported.&lt;br /&gt;
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A problem coming up is this: 10.5 was the last OS that supported PowerPC chips.  Anyone with a PowerPC computer is stuck forever on MacOS 10.5.&lt;br /&gt;
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Apple is introducing Mountain Lion (OS X 10.8) this summer.  At that point, &amp;quot;two OS revisions back&amp;quot; becomes MacOS 10.6.  That means 10.5 is dropped.  That means PowerPC is dropped.  However, that sucks for people with PowerPC machines.  Okay I get it.  The real BIG problem however is the tools made by Apple (Xcode) *require* that I use the latest OS in order to develop for that OS, so I *must* update to 10.8 when it comes out.  This is a big problem because those tools NO LONGER ENABLE the ability for me to produce a PowerPC version of kJams.&lt;br /&gt;
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So if i really want to keep supporting PowerPC computers on OS 10.5, it means I have to create a virtual machine with an older OS with older tools installed to do it.  It&amp;#039;s really hard for me to justify the hassle and expense of this, considering only about FIVE customers have written to me saying that they have this very old hardware.&lt;br /&gt;
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So here&amp;#039;s what I&amp;#039;m going to do.  I&amp;#039;ll make that VM with the old tools, so i CAN build the PowerPC version, but i probably won&amp;#039;t make a new version for every release.  I&amp;#039;ll probably update the PowerPC version only occasionally.&lt;br /&gt;
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What you should do: nothing different.  Whenever you see an update available, take it.  You&amp;#039;ll never be updated to a version that won&amp;#039;t work on your machine.  Your updates will come less frequently, but when they do, you WANT them cuz they&amp;#039;ll have all the latest features and bug fixes.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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