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		<title>Dave at 17:56, 7 July 2014</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-07T17:56:16Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# at the 25 second mark, kjams will crash&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# at the 25 second mark, kjams will crash&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Do you see the difference?  I didn&#039;t have ANY of those steps.  I have an 8 gig computer, my library has 10,000 songs, i&#039;m running kJams Pro, i was playing a random song, and it was an MP3+G file, not an MPEG1, and i only waited 1 second and did not see a crash.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Do you see the difference?  I didn&#039;t have ANY of those steps.  I have an 8 gig computer, my library has 10,000 songs, i&#039;m running kJams Pro, i was playing a random song, and it was an MP3+G file, not an MPEG1, and i only waited 1 second and did not see a crash&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;.  In this case i didn&#039;t come any where close to &quot;reproducing&quot; the conditions in which the crash occurs&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So, when i ask you for &amp;quot;repro steps&amp;quot;, i&amp;#039;m really asking for every single bit of information necessary to re-create the environment in which the bug occurred, and i&amp;#039;m asking for the file that it happened on too (if that&amp;#039;s required), including your prefs files and &amp;quot;kJams Library&amp;quot; if necessary, as well as the list of steps i must follow to get to the bug, which may involve several steps.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So, when i ask you for &amp;quot;repro steps&amp;quot;, i&amp;#039;m really asking for every single bit of information necessary to re-create the environment in which the bug occurred, and i&amp;#039;m asking for the file that it happened on too (if that&amp;#039;s required), including your prefs files and &amp;quot;kJams Library&amp;quot; if necessary, as well as the list of steps i must follow to get to the bug, which may involve several steps.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Dave at 04:23, 24 February 2013</title>
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		<updated>2013-02-24T04:23:01Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Also remember that i may not get to look at the bug for a while, so imagine i&amp;#039;m going to look at it a year from now and that i will not remember any conversations we&amp;#039;ve had about it.  the bug report should include EVERYTHING necessary to get a tester from absolute scratch to causing the bug to happen.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Also remember that i may not get to look at the bug for a while, so imagine i&amp;#039;m going to look at it a year from now and that i will not remember any conversations we&amp;#039;ve had about it.  the bug report should include EVERYTHING necessary to get a tester from absolute scratch to causing the bug to happen.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Dave: Created page with &quot;In the world of software quality engineering (&quot;SQE&quot;), we have a notion of &quot;steps to repro&quot;, or &quot;how can i reproduce this bug?&quot;.  This means a meticulous, exhaustive list of st...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2013-02-24T04:19:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;In the world of software quality engineering (&amp;quot;SQE&amp;quot;), we have a notion of &amp;quot;steps to repro&amp;quot;, or &amp;quot;how can i reproduce this bug?&amp;quot;.  This means a meticulous, exhaustive list of st...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;In the world of software quality engineering (&amp;quot;SQE&amp;quot;), we have a notion of &amp;quot;steps to repro&amp;quot;, or &amp;quot;how can i reproduce this bug?&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This means a meticulous, exhaustive list of steps, even ones considered obvious, that, if followed by grandma, will create the bug in question.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
for example, a user might say &amp;quot;kjams crashes when i play a song&amp;quot;, so then i go play a song and it doesn&amp;#039;t crash, well, the problem is they left out some steps.  the steps might actually be:&lt;br /&gt;
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# the computer has 1 GB of RAM&lt;br /&gt;
# the library has 100,000 song in it&lt;br /&gt;
# run kjams lite&lt;br /&gt;
# play the song &amp;quot;foobar&amp;quot; which is an MPEG1 file (included in bug report)&lt;br /&gt;
# at the 25 second mark, kjams will crash&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do you see the difference?  I didn&amp;#039;t have ANY of those steps.  I have an 8 gig computer, my library has 10,000 songs, i&amp;#039;m running kJams Pro, i was playing a random song, and it was an MP3+G file, not an MPEG1, and i only waited 1 second and did not see a crash.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So, when i ask you for &amp;quot;repro steps&amp;quot;, i&amp;#039;m really asking for every single bit of information necessary to re-create the environment in which the bug occurred, and i&amp;#039;m asking for the file that it happened on too (if that&amp;#039;s required), including your prefs files and &amp;quot;kJams Library&amp;quot; if necessary, as well as the list of steps i must follow to get to the bug, which may involve several steps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also remember that i may not get to look at the bug for a while, so imagine i&amp;#039;m going to look at it a year from now and that i will not remember any conversations we&amp;#039;ve had about it.  the bug report should include EVERYTHING necessary to get a tester from absolute scratch to causing the bug to happen.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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